Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Secession madness! Now 40 states join petition fray

Secession madness! Now 40 states join petition fray


If any of the hundreds of thousands of people petitioning the White House in the blossoming battle over secession get their way, somebody is going to leave the union, either voluntarily … or involuntarily.
Ever since WND first reported that residents in the state of Louisiana had filed an online petition with the White House to secede from the U.S., residents in at least 39 additional states have filed similar requests with the White House to peaceably break from the union.
What’s more, a pair of contrary petitions have been added to the White House website, including one to “strip the citizenship” of those who have petitioned for secession and another calling for their deportation.
As WND reported, the first of the petitions was filed on the White House’s We the People website the day after the 2012 election by Michael E. (full last name not provided) of Slidell, La.
Since then, residents from the following states have added their own secession petitions: New Hampshire, Illinois, Idaho, Rhode Island, Virginia, Wisconsin, Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, California, Delaware, Nevada, Kansas, Ohio, South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.
The White House website explains that once a petition reaches 25,000 signatures, it will be placed on a queue for response from the administration. The website also maintains a page for previous petitions that have received a White House response.
Some of the petitions have easily exceeded the required threshold.
The Texas petition, for example, has more than 80,000 signatures. The original Louisiana petition has topped 30,000. Florida has also crossed the threshold. Though the numbers keep climbing, the signatures for all 40 states now total at least 533,000.
The two petitions calling for the secession-sympathizers to be ousted total just more than 10,000.
The original Louisiana petition, which has served as a pattern for many of the new states, reads as follows: “We petition the Obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”
It continues, “As the Founding Fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776: ‘When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.’”
The petition concludes with a further quote from the Declaration of Independence: “‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’”
Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secession
Residents of other states, however, have chosen different wording.
The Texas petition explains itself this way: “The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
A petitioner from Tillamook, Ore., identified by the site as Kristopher W, worded his state’s petition this way: “Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the union peacefully and remain an ally to the nation.”
He continues, “With the federal government increasing its size much larger than our Founding Father’s intended, and its abuse of power trumping over the rights of state constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over its own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the Union immediately. The federal government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best interests, and we as citizens would respectively and peaceably separate ourselves from a tyrannical government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children. At any time that the citizens of Oregon [should feel] the federal government was no longer imposing on the Constitution, we could re-vote to again join the union under a new agreement.”
One of the contrary petitions reads this way: “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.”
It continues, “Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.”
The White House created the “We the People” petition site ostensibly as a way of giving all Americans “a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them.”
“The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution,” the page reads. “We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
The page also explains, “You have just 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order to get a response from the White House.”
Once the White House does draft a response, it has pledged to send it via email to everyone who has signed the petition (registration on the site with a valid email address is required to sign petitions).
To view or even sign one of the petitions, click here.
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  • CA is on this list! That is funny stuff right there!! These fools here couldn't run a coffee stand, let alone their own state. 
  • SharkGirl
    I like how the White House gives us only 30 days to come up with 25,000 signatures.  Really?  You break the laws of our land and then give us 30 days to come up with support or you won't respond?  How about this?  How about someone in authority get guts enough to arrest all you lame ducks in Congress and try you for TREASON.   You should have 30 days or less to comply with OUR laws!  Don't tell us we have to drum up support before you will address things.   We already have support.  It's called THE CONSTITUTION!
  • Charliegirl4u I am a Native Born Southern Georgia Girl! ...I am Christian (Seventh-Day-Adventist) and love my Country.!
    Good post!.. :)
  • This is all backward nonsense.  You do not petition the White House to secede from the nation.  You do not even petition Congress.  It is the State Legislature that decides whether to stay or go.
    Our Founding Fathers did petition King George for a redress of grievances.  But when he threw the petition on the floor and stomped on it, they then DECLARED THEIR INDEPENDENCE. They did not ASK for it - they demanded it.
    Our Founding Fathers were geniuses.  It is a pity we have no such leaders today.
  • whitemanfromtown
     The Obamunist will have one of his temper tantrums when he sees the numbers, that in it's self is worth it. Maybe he'll have a coronary.
  • politicaltroll
    What evidence is there to the contrary? And you sure seems to me you've given alot of thought to homosexuals and how they are perceived in society. Are you having any hidden feelings you want to discuss with the group here? LMAO!!
    One more thing: Coprophilic? Really? We BOTH know you have no idea what that word means and probably just googles it to sound smart. Another GED student...
  •  so a GED is demeaning---considering the aggregate voter who voted your way has 3 children and a third grade education
  • whitemanfromtown
     Oh so you view yourself as "High Brow"? Ha! That's rich and typical of some imbecilic lib.
  • Dave Weber

    The only issues that divide our nation are religion and
    science; the only solution is tolerance and acceptance that our Founding
    Fathers established a secular nation.
    All other issues are a paradox of the above.
  • 7Ashley44L
    One can make TV or Communism their RELIGEON, Dave Weber.  Christianity is not a religeon.  It is a reality.
  •  the spoils of war are not religion and science---read Soros's Open Society on the Atlantic Monthly and then consider who declared war on who
  • SBaker2
    It is a fool's errand to play word games with perverts that invented words to tar the opposition.  The lifestyle is not "gay,"  opponents are not "homophobes." normal people are not "straight," and normal people having children are not "birthers."   See the transparent game homosexuals play to hide their coprophilic behavior in the closet.  Trust me, their behavior is still in the closet and most of the public hasn't a clue--it ain't what you see on TV.Sniveling liberals start with the presumption that only white people who don't belong to the Democratic Party can be racist. So, for example, even if Jeremiah Wright can make it clear that he hates white people because of their skin color or if liberals take an explicitly racist political position, like suggesting that black people are too stupid and incompetent to get identification to vote, they can't be racist. White Republicans, on the other hand, are generally assumed to be racist by default, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.
  • politicaltroll
    I'm just bored and figured to have to some with you mental midgets on the FAR right of the political spectrum. And why do you keep talking about bullying? I haven't advocated violence in any way, shape, or form. It's your bunch who is talking about seceding and civil war delusions. I don't threaten people I don't know which is something you guys need to understand before storming the White House...
  • when the Civil War begins you can run recon into West Virginia and confront the enemy eye to eye 
  • politicaltroll
    I can assume you are in West Virginia and are making a threat? I have plenty of relatives in West Virginia and visit there often..
  • then you are perfect for the job---a man's man volunteers---a threat---you are such a piece of trash dude---I don't need to threaten an innocuous troll who creates a profile to get people to make statements for the NSA---My home is smack in the middle of the Red States---I will have to stay where I am---that won't stop me from calling you an idiot trying to bait people--with a new formed White House profile
  • politicaltroll
    Gimme a break roy. This fun site is filled with racists and homphobes who don't have the guts to speak their smack in public. They hide in mommy's basement  and spew hate and violence with no worry about recourse. Be a man and talk your trash in PUBLIC!!
  • SBaker2
    It is a fool's errand to play word games with perverts that invented words to tar the opposition.  The lifestyle is not "gay,"  opponents are not "homophobes." normal people are not "straight," and normal people having children are not "birthers."   See the transparent game homosexuals play to hide their coprophilic behavior in the closet.  Trust me, their behavior is still in the closet and most of the public hasn't a clue--it ain't what you see on TV.Sniveling liberals start with the presumption that only white people who don't belong to the Democratic Party can be racist. So, for example, even if Jeremiah Wright can make it clear that he hates white people because of their skin color or if liberals take an explicitly racist political position, like suggesting that black people are too stupid and incompetent to get identification to vote, they can't be racist. White Republicans, on the other hand, are generally assumed to be racist by default, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.
  • TableView
     I'm off! It has been a pleasure reading you trounce these guys all over this hate site. Keep up the good fight.
  • whitemanfromtown
     You did nothing but show everybody that you are a first class imbecile, but then you're a leftist twit and it's how you losers roll. LOL
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