Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Secession madness! Now 40 states join petition fray

Secession madness! Now 40 states join petition fray


If any of the hundreds of thousands of people petitioning the White House in the blossoming battle over secession get their way, somebody is going to leave the union, either voluntarily … or involuntarily.
Ever since WND first reported that residents in the state of Louisiana had filed an online petition with the White House to secede from the U.S., residents in at least 39 additional states have filed similar requests with the White House to peaceably break from the union.
What’s more, a pair of contrary petitions have been added to the White House website, including one to “strip the citizenship” of those who have petitioned for secession and another calling for their deportation.
As WND reported, the first of the petitions was filed on the White House’s We the People website the day after the 2012 election by Michael E. (full last name not provided) of Slidell, La.
Since then, residents from the following states have added their own secession petitions: New Hampshire, Illinois, Idaho, Rhode Island, Virginia, Wisconsin, Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, California, Delaware, Nevada, Kansas, Ohio, South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.
The White House website explains that once a petition reaches 25,000 signatures, it will be placed on a queue for response from the administration. The website also maintains a page for previous petitions that have received a White House response.
Some of the petitions have easily exceeded the required threshold.
The Texas petition, for example, has more than 80,000 signatures. The original Louisiana petition has topped 30,000. Florida has also crossed the threshold. Though the numbers keep climbing, the signatures for all 40 states now total at least 533,000.
The two petitions calling for the secession-sympathizers to be ousted total just more than 10,000.
The original Louisiana petition, which has served as a pattern for many of the new states, reads as follows: “We petition the Obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”
It continues, “As the Founding Fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776: ‘When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.’”
The petition concludes with a further quote from the Declaration of Independence: “‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’”
Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secession
Residents of other states, however, have chosen different wording.
The Texas petition explains itself this way: “The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
A petitioner from Tillamook, Ore., identified by the site as Kristopher W, worded his state’s petition this way: “Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the union peacefully and remain an ally to the nation.”
He continues, “With the federal government increasing its size much larger than our Founding Father’s intended, and its abuse of power trumping over the rights of state constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over its own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the Union immediately. The federal government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon’s best interests, and we as citizens would respectively and peaceably separate ourselves from a tyrannical government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children. At any time that the citizens of Oregon [should feel] the federal government was no longer imposing on the Constitution, we could re-vote to again join the union under a new agreement.”
One of the contrary petitions reads this way: “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.”
It continues, “Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.”
The White House created the “We the People” petition site ostensibly as a way of giving all Americans “a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them.”
“The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution,” the page reads. “We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
The page also explains, “You have just 30 days to get 25,000 signatures in order to get a response from the White House.”
Once the White House does draft a response, it has pledged to send it via email to everyone who has signed the petition (registration on the site with a valid email address is required to sign petitions).
To view or even sign one of the petitions, click here.
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  • barefootmtgirl
    @dorrie,  why didn't you and your jewish people,  vote the right person in office.  You brag you speak and write hebrew,  but the jewish people voted for Ohater. They ask for special protection at their places of worship, and WE pay for it. 
  • ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO WAKE UP THE LOUSY PEOPLE IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND MAKE IT CLEAR WE LOVE AMERICA AND ALL IT WAS FOUNDED TO BE AND DO NOT STAND WITH THE TRAITORS THAT ARE TAKING US INTO COMMUNISM, CORRUPTION AND KOWTOWING TO MUSLIMS AND IMMORALLITY OF THE LARGEST PORTION!
  • lifeissogood
    I'd love to know who thinks obama and his cronies can/will deport anyone? If they have the ability, why not start with the MILLIONS of illegal aliens that is just the start of the issues we have.
  • The Rep. and Senate In my opinion have all lost any right to Gov. the country along with any president who has not passed a budget in 4 years.
    Malfeasance  of duty.
    16 trillion in debt ....They should ALL hereby and forthwith resign  NOW.
  • del
    Everyone knows it was an illegitimate election....this guy couldnt even fill a hall with Stevie Wonderr at his side....We have all had way to much of this commie muslim illegally screwing our country and giving away our tax dollars to the wrong people. His rules and regs are outrageous and he is totally out of our values and principles for a free country....
  • rationalist
     “Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American
    citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA
    shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.”
    signed, Julio Gonzalez Gonzales, new "citizen" under Obama Amnesty Dream Act.
  • I think that if people want to secede themselves from the United States then let them. Let them figure out the hard way. You rather secede because you can't stand a black man being a leader than letting your voices be heard to make this a better America for everyone. Don't get me wrong, not everyone is a racist, but most of the people are signing this without necessarily considering what is at stake here. I rather work and improve the system then try to venture off prematurely and not know what the hell you are doing. Most of the states that are signing this petition are poor states that are depending on federal handouts. You can seperate yourself, but what are you going to do to make money? What are you going to do with natural disaster destroy your independent state? What are you going to do when the new government that you created turns out to be worst than the Obama administration? I honestly don't believe the petitioners really take the petition...
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  • rationalist
    Nothing to do with the black guy in the White House - has to do with the communist in the White House.
  • Magnolia
    We will retain the tax dollars we now send to DC. And in the cases of Tx and La, we will do quite well when we stop paying taxes on our own oil. Every pocket of oil or gas will have a well on it. We know how to do this and do it well.
  • At the least all voters should have to show I.D.s and the Electoral College should be done away with , to many people now feel their voote dose not count and that the DEMS who hate God and have no MORALS cheat  in every election.
  • 63Marine
    If push comes to shove, eliminate obozo before you leave the nation as a united states.
    Semper-Fi
  • dorrie
     The NEW nation will be the United States ... the Constitutional Republic it was at the very start!
  • AlwaysGiveSources
    "The NEW nation will be the United States"
    You want to secede from the United States.... but still BE the United States (the country you just seceded from)?
  • ulflat
    Now you're talking Article 6, paragraph 2.
  • If the petition signers are rounded up , this will start "CIVIL WAR", If they try to take away the guns, this will start "CIVIL WAR" -- If U.S. Military or NATO troops go against the American people this will start "Civil War"!  Do you see where this is going?????
  • dorrie
     No.  The Military will be on the side of the U.S. Constitution.  Period.
  • AlwaysGiveSources
    The US military fights on behalf, and under order of, the US. Meaning the United States Commander in Chief.
  • ticktockticktock
    not if we dont recognize him as commander in chief
  • ticktockticktock
    All the military bases are in the states not the white house..LOL
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